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Post by Renee on Jun 10, 2013 17:52:48 GMT -6
Trying to get a input of 12 Volts from either the kickstand, the clutch wire, or the neutral safety switch when either is activated.
However, all of these switches are on the ground side of the battery. Any ideas?
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 10, 2013 19:45:39 GMT -6
Hey man, what's wrong? Bike won't start? Just seems like the only reason you'd be trying to check these switches. Anyhow, even if the switches are hooked to the ground side of the elec system, you can easily test them with a multimeter capable of testing continuity. Simply unplug & check for continuity across the 2-wire before & after activating each switch. If they work, you will make & break continuity with the switch. If there is no change regardless of whether the switch is activated or not, you have a bad switch. Hope this helps!
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 19:22:44 GMT -6
nothing wrong with the bike, just doing an addition to the bike.
The problem with the having the switches at the negative side of the battery is that no voltage goes through them when they are activated. So, its not whether or not the switches work, but how to get 12 volts from a grounded switch?
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 19:36:08 GMT -6
What are you trying to add? Might be able to help if I knew what you're trying to hook up.
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 19:42:57 GMT -6
a custom shut down switch
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 19:45:35 GMT -6
Something for anti theft?
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 19:47:54 GMT -6
yes.
do you have any experience with alarms?
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 19:51:08 GMT -6
Not really, the only alarm I ever installed was on my VW beetle back in high school. That was super easy because the 69 beetle has minimal electrical.
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 19:57:45 GMT -6
I have installed 3 alarms so far, quite complex, but this has me perplexed. I have not fooled with it for 4 months now (school and work), but now I am ready to attack it one more time.
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 20:01:32 GMT -6
The only possible way I can come up with to get what you're looking for, would require using a solenoid that throws the positive you're looking for when it's activated by the ground given by the switches. Sorry for the run on sentence!
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 20:10:39 GMT -6
I get what you are saying.
I thought of using a relay to do what you said, but the problem is that both the clutch and the kick-stand switch will have no voltage going through or very little when grounded. So, a 12 volt relay will not operate like that.
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 20:34:04 GMT -6
You would want a standard 4 prong relay. As with any 4prong relay, 2 of them would get continuity when the other 2 get both sides (+&-) of 12 volts. We will call the 1st pair the switched prongs & the 2nd pair the activation prongs. You would hook a positive from the battery to one of each pair. Then you would hook your alarm wire to the left over switched prong & hook your ground(from the clutch, neutral, & kickstand switches) to the remaining activation prong.
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Post by Renee on Jun 11, 2013 20:48:38 GMT -6
this is the main problem, the 12-volt relay will not operate with the 1.3 volt these wires produce.
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Post by landonfz1 on Jun 11, 2013 21:13:45 GMT -6
So are you saying that if you check voltage with a multimeter you get less than 2 volts if you put positive meter lead on battery & the negative on the plug for the switch?
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Post by Renee on Jun 12, 2013 17:44:35 GMT -6
you know, I have not fooled with this for over 3 months, so I don't recall exactly what happens in this situation. I will mess with it tomorrow and let you know.
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